White spots on male discus...

[silent_thunder]

I keep reading previous threads on this however I cannot seem to get this discus free from whatever these white spots are...

I did a salt bath...

I am doing water changes daily...

He is in a 20 gallon tank with his mate...spawning tank

Some spots go away but then others appear...

He has no problem eating -L-

Water is at 86...

Is there any medication I should be adding?

Thanks

[mmorris]

Most anything can cause white spots: parasites, fungus, bacteria. Can you post a picture? How is he behaving? What are your water stats, wc regime? We'd need a lot more information before we can take a stab at it.

[aminyassien]

normally i put a peace of copper in my tanks that's why i dont have any white spot in my tanks

[Don Trinko]

How many spots? Are they raised? In the past few years I have had discus get one or two raised white spots. When it happens it is only on one fish and only a few spots. It has never been consistant in that it is never the same fish and only one fish. It happens only rarely. I add copper safe and they disapear in a few days. They may well have disapeared without the copper safe. Don t.

[silent_thunder]

I will get some pics up this weekend...your right...people need to see what I am dealing with...

Thanks

[silent_thunder]

A piece of copper huh....how big...

[Graham]

normally i put a peace of copper in my tanks that's why i dont have any white spot in my tanks

That's a really dangerous and uncontrolled way to use copper and wouldn't be recommended

[silent_thunder]

Its only the same fish...they move from one area to another...I will get a pic by sunday....meds kinda scare me -L- I seem to want to add to many...I will look for some copper thoughg if it gets to that point...

Thanks alot

[Graham]

These spots are moving??? how big are they....

[Eddie]

I'd salt do another salt bath and move the fish to another sterilized tank. It sounds like something in the current tank. Thats just me though

Also, how are you performing the salt bath? Amount and time?


Eddie

[silent_thunder]

In a 5 gallon bucket...using only 4 gallongs with 4 tablespoons of salt...

He lasted a little over 10 minutes before he rolled and I put him in his tank right away...

I will give him another bath after work tomorrow if thats what you suggest...

I will post some pics tommorrow night as well...

Thanks alot

[silent_thunder]

Very small spots fro the most part...started with a nouale by his back fin and then they began to move...the size of the top of a pin head....

who said it was gonna be easy -L- it was for a month...

he is more aggresive as well...

Thanks

[Eddie]

When you finish the bath, put him in new tank or a sterilized tank. No use in putting him back in the tank where he has had the spots, they will always come back.


Eddie

[Graham]

''...using only 4 gallongs with 4 tablespoons of salt...''

Actually I doubt that much salt had any effect what so ever...

4 tablespoons = 12 teaspoons and 3 teaspons per gallon = 0.3% salinity....so 12 teaspoons in 4 gallons of water is only 0.3% salinity. Build this level of salinity up over 24 hours and he could stay in it indefinately.

A lot of parasites when in a cyst stage on a fish are deeply inbedded in the cucticle and epidermis and are not affected by what we do to the water. Like Ich, it can only be killed off once off the fish.

[silent_thunder]

Ok heres some pics...

Can I never return him to his mate? I guess I need to get him well and get my 55 gallon done asap

Any help is apprciated

Thanks people

Daniel