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    my ph tester just arrived... ph from tap is 7.9 .. Ph from age and tank water is 7.7

    should i still age water?? should i try to lower ph with chemicals??

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    no reason to age it. leave ph as is with domestics
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    I concur.
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    Please don't mess with that pH. You could be sorry if you do.

    It's just fine - water ageing not necessary.

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    At what point do you start to age the water? Is there a certain criteria?

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    The only benifit to aging water is to allow the chlorine gas to precipitate and evaporate from the water. If you use a dechlorinator product such as Prime, aging IMO is not needed.

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    shouldn't water be aged if pH is lower out of the tap than what's in the tank (due to dissolved CO2)?
    I'm pushing the limit IMHO....pH from tap is 7.6-7.8, pH in tank runs 8.0. so 50% WCs are all I do volume-wise from tap.

    seems you have the reverse, so I'm assuming that's not a problem?
    (sorry, newbie questions!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoiseDiscusGuy View Post
    The only benifit to aging water is to allow the chlorine gas to precipitate and evaporate from the water. If you use a dechlorinator product such as Prime, aging IMO is not needed.
    I concur :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by shoveltrash View Post
    shouldn't water be aged if pH is lower out of the tap than what's in the tank (due to dissolved CO2)?
    I'm pushing the limit IMHO....pH from tap is 7.6-7.8, pH in tank runs 8.0. so 50% WCs are all I do volume-wise from tap.
    You need to let them get used to the tap water pH. They will do fine.
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    ok........maybe I've read too much and gotten the wrong ideas somehow? (quite possible! LOL)
    The only benifit to aging water is to allow the chlorine gas to precipitate and evaporate from the water. If you use a dechlorinator product such as Prime, aging IMO is not needed.
    I was under the impression that IF the pH from tap is lower than pH of 'aged/aerated' water (in tank), that WC fill water should be aged?????
    should I not worry about this at all, given my pH differences? I have softened well water, no chlorine whatsoever.
    my Discus are fine w/high pH btw .

    sorry, didn't mean to hijack your thread HenryDiscus!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoveltrash View Post
    ok........maybe I've read too much and gotten the wrong ideas somehow? (quite possible! LOL)

    I was under the impression that IF the pH from tap is lower than pH of 'aged/aerated' water (in tank), that WC fill water should be aged?????
    should I not worry about this at all, given my pH differences? I have softened well water, no chlorine whatsoever.
    my Discus are fine w/high pH btw .

    sorry, didn't mean to hijack your thread HenryDiscus!!!
    I honestly would'nt worry about 2-4 tenths of a point. that should be fine...

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    based on ph there may be no need to age the water, but what happens when you do a large water change? If you are getting lots of micro bubbles, the you SHOULD age your water regardless.


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    yes, a good bit of micro-bubbles. I've assumed it is dissolved CO2, since aerating the water increases the pH approx .5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Len_S View Post
    based on ph there may be no need to age the water, but what happens when you do a large water change? If you are getting lots of micro bubbles, the you SHOULD age your water regardless.
    How do you define a lots? covered 50% of the fish??

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    The main reason to age your tap is to allow the water to de-gas and the PH to equalize, you should still use a declore to be on the safe side. If your PH does not change greatly you probably don't need to age. My PH out of the tap runs 8.4-8.8 and drops to approx 7.8 after 24hrs. Still fairly high but consistent what you need to avoid is a wild PH swing every time you do a WC.

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    I have two big blue barrels to age my water, they were given to me by one of the fish farms near me. However, I don't use them. With today's technology, I really don't see the need to age my water.

    I will keep the barrels though. Been thinking of using them as outdoor ponds, you know, put some kind of fish in them. Koi will be too big for them though, maybe Platys or Guppies, something small.
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