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    Default Arturo's Contest Fish

    Hi everyone! first I'd like to start showing the fish:


    The male is a "White Diamond" (that was the strain or name given to the fish I don't know any background of the fish sorry)




    The female is a "Velvet Red" (Is the one on the bottom)

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    Default Re: Arturo's Contest Fish

    Why white diamond has yellow and blue on it? and female look like red melon to me ...

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    Red melons don't have white faces rdiscus. Should get some red/whites out of this cross with maybe some random yellow thrown in. alot will depend on the genetics of the white diamond, but it does appear to be pb based (as is the velvet red).

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    Water parameters:

    * PH: 6.22
    * Conductivity: 120 Ás/cm
    * Temperature: 83 F.

    06-17-12

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    Last edited by Silver; 07-08-2012 at 06:00 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdiscus View Post
    Why white diamond has yellow and blue on it? and female look like red melon to me ...
    To be honest I don't know anything about the white diamond I gotit when it was around 3" to me its just a white fish with a blue halo but idk the genetics on it..

    Quote Originally Posted by nc0gnet0 View Post
    Red melons don't have white faces rdiscus. Should get some red/whites out of this cross with maybe some random yellow thrown in. alot will depend on the genetics of the white diamond, but it does appear to be pb based (as is the velvet red).

    Rick
    Thanks for your help here Rick, its good to have people like you around here that knows genetics and have some good knowledge thanks again..
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    Default Re: Arturo's Contest Fish

    Nice!!! keep updating!
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    I'm sorry for the quality of pictures they were taken with my cell but that's the only prof I have from now on I will take better pics I promise..

    06-27-12 Free swimming

    06-29-12. 2 days after free swimming


    Last edited by Silver; 07-08-2012 at 07:34 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warlock4169 View Post
    Nice!!! keep updating!
    Thanks... I will but for now I have to go to do WCS lol.
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    Default Re: Arturo's Contest Fish

    Am I seeing a 50% split between white based and darker fry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nc0gnet0 View Post
    Am I seeing a 50% split between white based and darker fry?

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    I think your right Rick, and from what I know about white base they are as strong as pigeon. So if that is the case than the darker ones are what pigeon's that are really peppered? Something else I wonder is the male does look white base, but don't white base stay solid white I know they have the blue glow, but I thought other than that they were solid white. I don't know that is one I know very little about is white based fish, that is why I told Arturo to post it here to get other people in that know more about what this could be?
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    Awesome looking fish no matter what name it is given. Keep the pics coming for sure.
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    Arturo, glad to see you have entered the contest. It was sure nice to have meet you at the show. Nice parents BTW
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    Quote Originally Posted by nc0gnet0 View Post
    Red melons don't have white faces rdiscus. Rick
    Who say Red melons don't have white faces? What is this ?
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    I think your right Rick, and from what I know about white base they are as strong as pigeon. So if that is the case than the darker ones are what pigeon's that are really peppered?
    I am pretty sure all it means at this point is the male (white daimond) is heterozygous for the white gene (only has one). The white based fish do have a tendeny to mask pepper, but it's to early to tell if the darker ones are heavily peppered. They could be as clean as a whistle, they just don't have the white gene.

    Something else I wonder is the male does look white base, but don't white base stay solid white I know they have the blue glow, but I thought other than that they were solid white. I don't know that is one I know very little about is white based fish, that is why I told Arturo to post it here to get other people in that know more about what this could be?
    There are several white based pb that are not solid white, red/whites and ogon yellows to name a few.

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    Who say Red melons don't have white faces? What is this ?
    Looks like a velvet red

    When I thihnk red melon I think of a fish like this:

    http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...956#post873956

    Alot of breeders will apply a different name when the face is white. In your example the breeder choose not to. Long story short, they are very simular (velvet red, red melon, etc) and it's all part of the name game.

    Rick
    Last edited by nc0gnet0; 07-09-2012 at 12:00 AM.

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