pop eye?

[Sheila]

I have one discus that has been getting darker over the last few days an not eating. Today I noticed his eyes seem to really stick out, then I noticed this on one of my other discus as well. With the exception of these 2 everyone else is fine.

I have 20 cardinals, 11 Discus and 8 Cories in this tank. It is filtered by a rena xp3 and a number 5 sponge filter. Temp is 84. I do about 40% water changes every other day right now and it is bare bottom. They get fed 4-6 times a day.

What is this and how can I treat it? Is it pop eye like other fish get?

[Sheila]

Ok, I found the questionare I was looking for, hopeflully this will help
DISEASE QUESTIONNAIRE


Problem

1. Please explain the problems with your fish/when and how they started

About 4 days ago one of my discus started getting dark and not eating well. Today I noticed his eyes are bulging, I also noted bulging eyes on a second discus but his color is still good.



2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/ white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds)

turning dark, not eating, bulging eyes




3. What medications/ treatments that you have already tried and results. Include dosages and duration of treatment.

nothing yet, did a big water change yesterday



Tank/Water

4. Tank size and age, number and size of fish

150g, tank itself has been set up for almost 2 years, Discus since August. 11 Discus, 20ish cardinals, 8 cories

5. Water change regime/ how long has tank been running/ bare bottom or gravel/ do you age your water?

Tank has been running since august, bare bottom, do not age water. I changes about %40 every 2 days.

6 Parameters and water source;

- temp __84___

- ph _____

- ammonia reading __0__

- nitrite reading ____

- nitrate reading ____

- well water ____

- municipal water __yes__

Sorry, I don't know the rest, I will test right away.

7. Any new fish/plants added recently
added some new plants yesterday, no new fish

[judy]

I hope wiser eyes than mine read this-- I got nuthin', sorry Sheila.

[warblad79]

I used pimafix and melafix. It work for all my discus. Just google it for info and dosage

[Sheila]

Do they really work? I've read a few things saying they are a waste of money. Do you treat with both at the same time?

[lipadj46]

mela and pimafix are garbage for anything beyond small nicks and scrapes. if water changes dont work try furan 2 or kanamyacin or both

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[DiscusLoverJeff]

I just used Maracyn Plus and in 5 days it was gone. Did 50% water change daily.

[judy]

mela and pimafix are garbage for anything beyond small nicks and scrapes. if water changes dont work try furan 2 or kanamyacin or both

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+1 on the pima and melafix for sure. that much at least, I know.

[Sheila]

Here are some pics if they help




I will have to get some of that, Is it ok to treat the whole display tank? I'm concerned about the others developing this. Would increasing the temp help at all?

[Sheila]

Ok so, Maracyn 2 or Furan, I'll be leaving in a bout 1 hour to get some. What would be better, to treat in a qt tank or do the whole display, there are only 2 fish showing signs right now. Is it likely to spread to the others? I'm just a bit hesitant to use my qt as I need it in about 10 days for a kole tang I am getting. But I'm sure it will be much cheaper to treat the smaller tank. What do you think?

[DiscusLoverJeff]

QT would be best and cheaper.

[Sheila]

ok, that's what I'll do. Is there any concern for the other fish developing this? Or is it a wait an see thing?

[Ardan]

I am not certain the eyes are bulging more than normal?? eye color looks good and I really cant tell the fish is dark?

If there is an internal bacterial problem then I have used Kanamyacin. I believe also that maracyn 2 is a good med for internal bacteria.
IME pimafix and melafix and furan 2 are mostly for external problems, but that's just my own experience.
Barebottom is the only way to treat.
Always quarantine all new plants or fish.
Keep the tank very clean.

Ardan

[Sheila]

His eyes are definitely bulging, but this one still has good color. I could not get a pic of the dark one as it would not come out from hiding. I'm going to set up a qt tank for the two and treat with marycn 2, should I up the heat as well to help with their appetites? Also does anyone know if marycn 2 will kill my filters? I'm guessing it will as it is an antibacterial. I will be doing %50 water changes on the tank in either case so ammonia and nitrates should not be a problem I hope.

[DiscusLoverJeff]

It won't hurt your bio media. I just left temp alone (84 degrees) and medicated. Feeding was the same schedule nothing different there. Just make sure to do the water changes.