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A few stores in my area carry this kind of PP, link here. Would this be safe to use on Discus? Mainly worried about it having other additives that could harm them.
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Thanks. Do you use this type of brand too? I'm wondering based off of what I read on the forums which medication do I use for what. There are a lot of conflicting viewpoints suggesting different types of meds for similar diseases. Would PP work for most? It's also the harshest from what I read?
I generally use PP if I suspect any type of bacterial issue in a tank or some kind of externals on the fish. I've had limited success with it on flukes and even a little on tape worms. I've found it to be extremely safe, fast, and effective; as long as you follow the forums directions and don't overdose with it.
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That is the brand I have and I bought it at Home Depot or Lowes.
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What ever kind your decide to purchase make sure that it doesn't have silicon dioxide anti caking agent its been reported to be toxic to fish. Here is a good source for your PP little more expensive but you know whats in the container... http://www.sciencecompany.com/Potass...00g-P6403.aspx ........Josie
Josie where did you get the info that silicon dioxide is toxic to fish?
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I am not understanding this, if this were indeed the case, then sand in aquariums would be really really bad. In humans, certain forms of silicone dioxide (crystalline as opposed to amorphous) can be an inhalation hazard (ie: silicosis common amongst those who do a lot of sand blasting), but the respiratory system in a fish is quite different. I would be interested to hear what the mad scientist has to say on this.
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Might be from this:
http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/...523131120.html
Study article references - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23196406
For the study, zebra fish was exposed to sub-lethal concentrations of 5 and 2.5 mg of silicon dioxide nanoparticles per liter of water for a period of seven days.
After seven days, the treated fish were scarified and tissues including liver muscle and gill wee processed for analysis of antioxidant enzymes including catalase, superoxide dismutase, glutathione (GSH)-S-transferase, glutathione reductase and GSH and DNA fragmentation and DNA profiles. Analysed were also tissues from zebra fish that were not exposed to silicon dioxide nanoparticles.
Assuming that the same percentage of anti-caking agent in the PP is that of salt, which is one percent, it would take 250mg/l of PP to produce the 5 mg/l of silicone dioxide in that test, and you would have to subject the fish to it for a period of 7 days.
Seeing how the normal dose of PP is 2 mg/l (which is roughly 2ppm) dosed for 4 hours, I would say the silicone dioxide would be the least of your worries
From what I can gather from the study as far as toxicity, it has a lot more to do with the particle size (of the Si02) than anything.
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Now, for those of you that think of PP as a medication, have a good look at this video and see what happens when you mix it with brake fluid:
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